Comments on: Question: When do I give up? http://www.nevermindthemanager.com/2009/10/question-when-do-i-give-up/ Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:18:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Frode Heimen http://www.nevermindthemanager.com/2009/10/question-when-do-i-give-up/comment-page-1/#comment-16835 Frode Heimen Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:38:34 +0000 http://www.nevermindthemanager.com/?p=367#comment-16835 Hi Julie. What you are really saying is that I might have given them some tools to use later on? Maybe not with me, but in their next job, that might be more correct for them? I do believe that if you love your job, you will do a good job, or at least provide a good effort. So if this fails, it is an indicator of you having the wrong job? Hi Wally, I am happy to see you reading my blog, I do really enjoy yours. I do agree, I can not change lifes, but I can provide a good soil for good growth. But unlike plants that will grow, humans can chose to grow or not. It is like motivation. I can not motivate other people, I need to inspire them to see for themselves. To all: Thank you for all these comments, it is really helping! :) Hi Julie.
What you are really saying is that I might have given them some tools to use later on? Maybe not with me, but in their next job, that might be more correct for them? I do believe that if you love your job, you will do a good job, or at least provide a good effort. So if this fails, it is an indicator of you having the wrong job?

Hi Wally, I am happy to see you reading my blog, I do really enjoy yours. I do agree, I can not change lifes, but I can provide a good soil for good growth. But unlike plants that will grow, humans can chose to grow or not. It is like motivation. I can not motivate other people, I need to inspire them to see for themselves.

To all: Thank you for all these comments, it is really helping! :)

]]> By: Wally Bock http://www.nevermindthemanager.com/2009/10/question-when-do-i-give-up/comment-page-1/#comment-16826 Wally Bock Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:29:20 +0000 http://www.nevermindthemanager.com/?p=367#comment-16826 I knew a speaker who had coffee cups inscribed on one side with "I am a professional speaker" and on the other with "I change lives." That's nonsense. If any changing gets done, it's not us speakers and trainers and coaches and consultants who do it. We do not make it happen. We present analysis, resources and recommendations. We ask questions. But in the end it's the person who has to decide to change and take action to change. We can work on doing a better job of analysis. We can develop the tools of presentation. What can't do is motivate another person. That's entirely up to them. I knew a speaker who had coffee cups inscribed on one side with “I am a professional speaker” and on the other with “I change lives.” That’s nonsense. If any changing gets done, it’s not us speakers and trainers and coaches and consultants who do it. We do not make it happen. We present analysis, resources and recommendations. We ask questions. But in the end it’s the person who has to decide to change and take action to change.

We can work on doing a better job of analysis. We can develop the tools of presentation. What can’t do is motivate another person. That’s entirely up to them.

]]> By: Julie Kay http://www.nevermindthemanager.com/2009/10/question-when-do-i-give-up/comment-page-1/#comment-16798 Julie Kay Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:39:13 +0000 http://www.nevermindthemanager.com/?p=367#comment-16798 Fode I agree with the previous comments about helping people move on positively and just wanted to add a couple more thoughts: Your strong faith in human potential and commitment to support the people around you is admirable and is likely to ensure you are providing the greatest opportunity for change. If you tie your own self worth or professional expertise to the results clients acheive you may suffer uneccessarily. Sometimes when people are not motivated we may just be doing enough to help them maintain the status quo. In other words they can take satisfaction in sharing their issues with us while not actually taking any action. It may be that the issue is not urgent or important enough yet or the timing not right but you may just have planted enough of a seed for the right time to arrive sooner. Thanks for your interesting post. Julie Kay Fode

I agree with the previous comments about helping people move on positively and just wanted to add a couple more thoughts:

Your strong faith in human potential and commitment to support the people around you is admirable and is likely to ensure you are providing the greatest opportunity for change.

If you tie your own self worth or professional expertise to the results clients acheive you may suffer uneccessarily.

Sometimes when people are not motivated we may just be doing enough to help them maintain the status quo. In other words they can take satisfaction in sharing their issues with us while not actually taking any action. It may be that the issue is not urgent or important enough yet or the timing not right but you may just have planted enough of a seed for the right time to arrive sooner.

Thanks for your interesting post.

Julie Kay

]]> By: Frode Heimen http://www.nevermindthemanager.com/2009/10/question-when-do-i-give-up/comment-page-1/#comment-16795 Frode Heimen Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:58:09 +0000 http://www.nevermindthemanager.com/?p=367#comment-16795 Hi Thank you for your comments. So the good thing would be to advice them to quit? And aid them in the hunt for a new job? @Joe: So deciding to drop a client or giving an employee an advice to find a new job is actually a step on the path to a happier life... Good. @Steve: Thank you for your advice. So actually just being honest and saying that this does not work, is the solution I am looking for? I for once do not like to disapoint or let someone down, but I might find it easier if I think of it as helping them to move on. Great! I am glad I asked :) Thank you. Frode Hi Thank you for your comments.
So the good thing would be to advice them to quit? And aid them in the hunt for a new job?

@Joe: So deciding to drop a client or giving an employee an advice to find a new job is actually a step on the path to a happier life… Good.

@Steve: Thank you for your advice.

So actually just being honest and saying that this does not work, is the solution I am looking for? I for once do not like to disapoint or let someone down, but I might find it easier if I think of it as helping them to move on.

Great! I am glad I asked :)

Thank you.

Frode

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